When is it time to panic?
By The (liberal)Girl Next Door
I have been a reader of The Reaction for a while now and I was happy to accept Mr. Stickings’ invitation to blog at his fine site. The two greatest fringe benefits to blogging (the main benefits being the venting of frustration and kicking a little Republican ass) are getting to know other bloggers and having a dialogue with the readers. Most of the time, you can give as good as we can and I always appreciate that. Now let’s get down to it, shall we?
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Someone recently told me that it’s not quite time to panic, that things in this country may be bad, but we haven’t yet reached the point of no return. So I’d just like to toss out the question. When is it time to panic? When does mere concern turn urgent, and will we all recognize the signs in time?
Is it time to panic when the press is used as the propaganda arm of the administration, when reporters take money from the government to promote their agenda? Apparently not considering that Armstrong Williams and Jeff Gannon were exposed as paid propagandists and the General Accounting Office found that the Bush administration’s distribution of “news” stories in support of their policies violated the law, yet they continue to use them.
Is it time to panic when they use their influence with a separate branch of government to quash any investigation into crimes they may have committed? We are still waiting for phase II of the Congressional investigation into pre-war intelligence that was clearly cherry picked, manipulated and in some cases down right manufactured. The Democrats in the Senate made headlines last year when they forced a closed session in an attempt to draw attention to the stalled investigation. Bill Frist came on television and blasted Democrats for pulling this “stunt” and promised that the investigation would go forward, that they had intended all along to do so. The closed session was called on November 1, 2005 and ended with the promise that Phase II would be completed. Five months later and still nothing has been done.
Is it time to panic when the Bush administration can violate the law and possibly the Constitutional rights of American citizens without repercussion? I guess not, considering that last week, Republicans in the formerly separate branch of government known as the Senate, refused to open an investigation into possible violations of law by the Bush administration in its secretive NSA warrantless surveillance program. Even with the presence of whistleblowers from within the NSA who are willing to testify under oath to the Senate, the truth continues to be buried by partisans on the hill. So much for checks and balances and the people’s right to know.
Is it time to panic when this administration starts attacking sovereign nations without provocation? We have already done so in Iraq and the propaganda machine is in overdrive selling the next pre-emptive strike on Iran. Support for tactical strikes (possibly using nuclear weapons) are being sold to the people via the same means and methods employed before invading Iraq. There is no reason to think that the con job won’t work just as well the second time around. It’s not as if being proven wrong on weapons of mass destruction will carry any penalties.
Is it time to panic when the Bush administration ignores treaties and violates international law? We’ve seen the pictures from Abu Ghraib prison, read the reports on Gitmo and heard the tales of rendition. Instead of owning up to abuse and torture, the Bush administration has twisted the law and declared the Geneva Conventions “quaint”. We may be disgusted by what is being done in our name, but there has been no price to pay for those who formulate the policy. Only those who implemented the policy at the bottom of the chain of command have paid any price at all.
Is it time to panic when our votes are counted in secret? Like Stalin said, “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” We are allowing our votes to be tabulated by machines that run on proprietary software, that are easily manipulated and in most cases unverifiable. Whether or not elections have already been rigged is not as important as whether or not they could be. If there is no integrity to our voting process, there is no integrity in the outcome.
Is it time to panic when the rubber stamp Congress tries to criminalize reporting? Instead of investigating the warrantless surveillance being conducted by the NSA, Congress has decided to pass new legislation that will simply make the illegal program legal. In doing so, they may also be making it a crime for reporters to report on the program at all. According to The Washington Post, “The draft would add to the criminal penalties for anyone who ‘intentionally discloses information identifying or describing’ the Bush administration's terrorist surveillance program or any other eavesdropping program conducted under a 1978 surveillance law.” Senator DeWine, R-Ohio, assures us that it is not the intention of the bill to silence reporters and that if need be, they will patch the problem language. I don’t know about you, but Senator DeWine’s words give me little comfort.
Or is it time to panic when, as Patricia Goldsmith suggests, there is no opposition left? It has long been the case that our two party system is nothing more than political theater. We have two political parties feeding from the same corporate troughs and serving the same corporate interests. If we continue to buy into the lies of either side and continue to separate from one another reducing public discourse to screaming at one another from opposite sides of the wedges driven between us, we give the only power we have left away to leaders who will only abuse it. If we willfully divide ourselves, we will be easily conquered.
I don’t want to panic before it is warranted, but I sometimes wonder if we will recognize the last straw. Don’t we remember that in Germany, the Nazis took control of government, not in a violent coup, but by passing laws that gave them increasing power and control over the people and the news they received? We keep hearing that it’s not time to panic just yet, but if history has a lesson for us right now, it’s that panicking too late won’t do a damn bit of good. Do we really, as a country, want to sit idly by watching evil become a way of life? Most of us judge the German people not as victims, but rather as willing accomplices. Will we judge ourselves the same?
I have been wary of using the Nazi comparison, but since Sandra Day O’Connor, the voice of reason on our high court for decades, feels comfortable warning of a dictatorship, I guess I feel justified. We are being fed propaganda, our government is becoming increasingly secretive, dissenting voices are routinely being silenced, and this administration appears to be accountable to no one. If it isn’t quite yet time to panic, I fear the time is fast approaching.
(Cross-posted at The (liberal)Girl Next Door.)
I have been a reader of The Reaction for a while now and I was happy to accept Mr. Stickings’ invitation to blog at his fine site. The two greatest fringe benefits to blogging (the main benefits being the venting of frustration and kicking a little Republican ass) are getting to know other bloggers and having a dialogue with the readers. Most of the time, you can give as good as we can and I always appreciate that. Now let’s get down to it, shall we?
**********
Someone recently told me that it’s not quite time to panic, that things in this country may be bad, but we haven’t yet reached the point of no return. So I’d just like to toss out the question. When is it time to panic? When does mere concern turn urgent, and will we all recognize the signs in time?
Is it time to panic when the press is used as the propaganda arm of the administration, when reporters take money from the government to promote their agenda? Apparently not considering that Armstrong Williams and Jeff Gannon were exposed as paid propagandists and the General Accounting Office found that the Bush administration’s distribution of “news” stories in support of their policies violated the law, yet they continue to use them.
Is it time to panic when they use their influence with a separate branch of government to quash any investigation into crimes they may have committed? We are still waiting for phase II of the Congressional investigation into pre-war intelligence that was clearly cherry picked, manipulated and in some cases down right manufactured. The Democrats in the Senate made headlines last year when they forced a closed session in an attempt to draw attention to the stalled investigation. Bill Frist came on television and blasted Democrats for pulling this “stunt” and promised that the investigation would go forward, that they had intended all along to do so. The closed session was called on November 1, 2005 and ended with the promise that Phase II would be completed. Five months later and still nothing has been done.
Is it time to panic when the Bush administration can violate the law and possibly the Constitutional rights of American citizens without repercussion? I guess not, considering that last week, Republicans in the formerly separate branch of government known as the Senate, refused to open an investigation into possible violations of law by the Bush administration in its secretive NSA warrantless surveillance program. Even with the presence of whistleblowers from within the NSA who are willing to testify under oath to the Senate, the truth continues to be buried by partisans on the hill. So much for checks and balances and the people’s right to know.
Is it time to panic when this administration starts attacking sovereign nations without provocation? We have already done so in Iraq and the propaganda machine is in overdrive selling the next pre-emptive strike on Iran. Support for tactical strikes (possibly using nuclear weapons) are being sold to the people via the same means and methods employed before invading Iraq. There is no reason to think that the con job won’t work just as well the second time around. It’s not as if being proven wrong on weapons of mass destruction will carry any penalties.
Is it time to panic when the Bush administration ignores treaties and violates international law? We’ve seen the pictures from Abu Ghraib prison, read the reports on Gitmo and heard the tales of rendition. Instead of owning up to abuse and torture, the Bush administration has twisted the law and declared the Geneva Conventions “quaint”. We may be disgusted by what is being done in our name, but there has been no price to pay for those who formulate the policy. Only those who implemented the policy at the bottom of the chain of command have paid any price at all.
Is it time to panic when our votes are counted in secret? Like Stalin said, “Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” We are allowing our votes to be tabulated by machines that run on proprietary software, that are easily manipulated and in most cases unverifiable. Whether or not elections have already been rigged is not as important as whether or not they could be. If there is no integrity to our voting process, there is no integrity in the outcome.
Is it time to panic when the rubber stamp Congress tries to criminalize reporting? Instead of investigating the warrantless surveillance being conducted by the NSA, Congress has decided to pass new legislation that will simply make the illegal program legal. In doing so, they may also be making it a crime for reporters to report on the program at all. According to The Washington Post, “The draft would add to the criminal penalties for anyone who ‘intentionally discloses information identifying or describing’ the Bush administration's terrorist surveillance program or any other eavesdropping program conducted under a 1978 surveillance law.” Senator DeWine, R-Ohio, assures us that it is not the intention of the bill to silence reporters and that if need be, they will patch the problem language. I don’t know about you, but Senator DeWine’s words give me little comfort.
Or is it time to panic when, as Patricia Goldsmith suggests, there is no opposition left? It has long been the case that our two party system is nothing more than political theater. We have two political parties feeding from the same corporate troughs and serving the same corporate interests. If we continue to buy into the lies of either side and continue to separate from one another reducing public discourse to screaming at one another from opposite sides of the wedges driven between us, we give the only power we have left away to leaders who will only abuse it. If we willfully divide ourselves, we will be easily conquered.
I don’t want to panic before it is warranted, but I sometimes wonder if we will recognize the last straw. Don’t we remember that in Germany, the Nazis took control of government, not in a violent coup, but by passing laws that gave them increasing power and control over the people and the news they received? We keep hearing that it’s not time to panic just yet, but if history has a lesson for us right now, it’s that panicking too late won’t do a damn bit of good. Do we really, as a country, want to sit idly by watching evil become a way of life? Most of us judge the German people not as victims, but rather as willing accomplices. Will we judge ourselves the same?
I have been wary of using the Nazi comparison, but since Sandra Day O’Connor, the voice of reason on our high court for decades, feels comfortable warning of a dictatorship, I guess I feel justified. We are being fed propaganda, our government is becoming increasingly secretive, dissenting voices are routinely being silenced, and this administration appears to be accountable to no one. If it isn’t quite yet time to panic, I fear the time is fast approaching.
(Cross-posted at The (liberal)Girl Next Door.)




30 Comments:
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JWC, at 1:44 PM
It is never a time to panic.
Panic forestalls action.
Fear is failure and the forerunner of failure.
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Effwit, at 4:15 PM
A great first post. It just so happens to be in tune with an item I posted today so I've amended my post to include it.
Linked here.
Regards, Cernig @ Newshog.
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Cernig, at 4:16 PM
Liberal Girl Next Door: Read a book about Stalin, HItler, or other real oppressive societies before you throw around the slippery slope argument.
Is it time to panic? No, it's time to win an election, simple as that.
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Nate, at 6:49 PM
jwc—I’m with you, there are some great folks doing some great work our there, it’s hard to keep up.
effwit—Yes, fear = failure, but as this administration has proven over and over again, instilling fear = winning elections. Not really what I’m advocating here, just trying to determine how far down a bad road we’ve already traveled. So far, I’m not liking the neighborhood much.
cernig—Thanks and I love Newshog!
nate—I am clearly not as knowledgeable as you on the history of oppressive societies, but I’ve read a bit (I know, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing) and there are some striking parallels. I would read more on the subject but it’s hard to keep the words in focus moving downhill at this speed (it’s almost as if someone has greased the skids).
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The (liberal)Girl Next Door, at 7:24 PM
I probably should have expressed myself more diplomatically, but the argument that some of the tactics employed by the Bush administration resemble that of Hitler or Stalin is very different from implying that America is in any danger of resembling Nazi Germany or the Stalinist USSR. I'm willing to entertain the former, but when paired with the latter the point becomes absurd. You can't compare a few hundred people held without trial or phones being tapped, however un-American it may be, with millions murdered and terrorized.
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Nate, at 8:40 PM
nate—And I certainly would never make that leap. I do not think that there is any comparison to be made between America and Nazi Germany or the Stalinist USSR, I just fear that if we don’t consider every small infraction against our Constitution as serious, we run the risk of the death of democracy by a thousand cuts.
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The (liberal)Girl Next Door, at 10:07 PM
Fair enough. But just keep in mind that merely because leaders abuse their powers does not in and of itself signal an end of democracy. Lincoln suspended suspended habeus corpus to jail his opponents, had his generals censor newspapers and imprison editors, and imposed martial law. He also unilaterally freed the slaves. Abuses of power, yes, but not a slippery slope to dictatorship. FDR authorized herding 100,000 Japanese-Americans into prison camps, and somehow this didn't herald the end of democracy.
Basically, a majority of the country supports stuff like the Patriot Act, wire-tapping, and Guantanamo. Bush does it because a lot of people want him to. We should work on changing their minds, and winning elections if we want to fix the situation.
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Nate, at 1:44 AM
nate--And all of those abuses were met with stark resistance that led to the repealing and condemnation of those policies. Just because it has been done in the past, doesn't make it okay now. Without resistance to blatant overreaching, the march continues onward, that's all I'm saying. Well, that and thanks for the dialogue, I've enjoyed it very much.
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The (liberal)Girl Next Door, at 2:57 AM
Well, you don't appear to be enjoying the dialogue enough to extend it! :)
My final point: We aren't talking about the wisdom of certain abusive policies, we are talking about their effect on democracy. Fact is, Lincoln, FDR, and yes, Bush, did what they did because they wanted to save and strengthen American democracy. And Lincoln did strengthen democracy for blacks in the south by clamping down the way he did. FDR messed up, but he had good intentions. Bush is in the same camp.
Bush is soaking up up executive power, but he isn't saying he should be President for life, and he is finding constitutional justification for everything he does. (however twisted his readings may be) NOTHING he has done does as much damage to our conception of democracy as something like the electoral college voting process.
All right, you can be done with me now!
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Nate, at 1:09 PM
nate— I wasn't trying to be dismissive. I guess what I should have said was, I AM enjoying the dialogue very much. My intent was not to cut off the discussion.
I don’t know if it’s possible yet to determine which camp Bush falls in, as we do not know the extent of his reach. How can you proclaim Bush has good intentions when we are not even allowed to know the scope of the NSA surveillance program he has authorized? If, for example, he were using it to root out domestic political enemies, then his intentions would be decidedly bad. It seems to me that there is still the possibility that the program is in direct violation of the fourth amendment and accepting his word that it is not, especially considering his track record, is simply not good enough for me. “Trust me” is not a sufficient replacement for checks and balances and secrecy breeds distrust. If some of us don’t have faith that Bush has good intentions, it’s because he closes the door to scrutiny.
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The (liberal)Girl Next Door, at 3:51 PM
Isn't this a constitutional question, though? The fourth amendment is sufficiently broad to allow for a number of readings. It seems to me the real problem you (and I) have is with Congress, who are not fulfilling their role in checking the President. If we are dealing new technologies, Congress needs to figure out how to regulate them, but it doesn't strike me as totally unreasonable that the President would want to minimize this beauracatic element. The President is grabbing too much cake, but to me its Congress' fault because they are giving it up without protest.
As to Bush's good intentions, who knows. I'm lean more to notion that he is inexperienced and in over his head, and when 9-11 occurred he got spooked and is erring on the side of doing everything possible to prevent another attack, even if it means trampling on some civil liberties.
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Nate, at 7:45 PM
nate—See, this is why I love rational discourse because in the end, we often find that differences of opinion arise due to variances in style and language. I honestly believe that if people conversed more and used rhetoric less, we’d all find that we’re pretty much on the same side when it comes to the outcome we desire.
Yes, I do hold Congress responsible for their lack of oversight. It is a dereliction of duty, plain and simple. I understand that fundamentally, Bush and the neo-cons (a philosophy he seems to have wholeheartedly embraced since taking office) believe that the executive branch has been weakened and that this is their opportunity to grab some power back. Fine, a tug of war over power is part of the reason why our democracy has endured, but we find ourselves in a situation where there is little resistance to that power grab, and that is what scares me most. The press, having a designated constitutional right to hold those in power accountable, has been neutered by media consolidation that results, more often than not, in the realization that their interests are best served by not exercising that right. I’m not saying that they are wrong to pursue profit over their role as the fourth estate, they are a business like any other, but it does add to the lack of accountability of this administration.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely (so I’ve heard) and without a balance to the power this administration is acquiring, I just think we should be on guard.
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The (liberal)Girl Next Door, at 9:30 PM
nate,
Don't forget that Diebold is a good Republican company, though.
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Jim Satterfield, at 1:32 PM
Okay, looks like we agree on the role of Congress. Good stuff. I'll leave the issue of the press for another day, but I think I disagee with you there!
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