Limbaugh's lament
By Capt. Fogg
When the man behind the curtain speaks, Republicans listen. Others become speechless. It's all too predictable that Limbaugh would support Joe Wilson's outburst and not surprising that he claims to have been squealing "you lie" himself throughout the entirety of President Obama's health care speech.
he grunted on his radio show yesterday. Of course, and as usual, no discussion of how or about what he actually lied ensued. Boss Hogg said he lied, that's enough, and Wilson never should have apologized and his colleagues shouldn't have pressured him to do so.
It reminds me of the first time I heard his radio show. I was driving through Georgia, in the days before satellite radio, and I decided to give him a minute to see what he was about.
[Rush] "I mean, the guy (President Clinton) just makes me sick."
[caller 1] "Ditto Rush! I see him and I want to vomit."
[caller 2] "Ditto, ditto -- oh ditto? Rush, everything about him is disgusting. He makes me sick, sick!"
The call and response chorus went on and on until I turned it off and I've only heard him a couple of other times in all these years -- I mean he makes me sick, but I can usually tell you why without inventing things.
That no plan offered by anyone provides health insurance for illegal residents of the U.S. isn't hard to determine, but Rush isn't about facts, he's about emotions -- hate, for the most part. It's easy for him to say that Obama is plotting:
It's impossible, however, to make a case for that without lying. In fact, his attempts to preserve some of those institutions are the basis for other Limbaugh anger crusades. I'm at a loss to understand what American institutions made America great and are now in peril from the concept of making insurance available to everyone, unless stupidity, dishonesty and perhaps insanity are institutions. I'm at a loss to understand just how:
means the opposite of what it says without subscribing to Limbaughian logic. In fact, it proves that Rush is a liar, something all to easy to do, but one thing Rush knows is that the more absurd and preposterous the claim the less effective is the irrefutable proof of its falsity.
Rush knows and Rush profits and Rush keeps on lying and Republicans keep on following in his wake, terrified to disobey. It's not so much that he makes me sick but that he is the sickness.
(Cross-posted from Human Voices.)
My first thought was, he lied in every word
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When the man behind the curtain speaks, Republicans listen. Others become speechless. It's all too predictable that Limbaugh would support Joe Wilson's outburst and not surprising that he claims to have been squealing "you lie" himself throughout the entirety of President Obama's health care speech.
He is lying, President Obama is. From the moment he opens his mouth until he ends the speech,
he grunted on his radio show yesterday. Of course, and as usual, no discussion of how or about what he actually lied ensued. Boss Hogg said he lied, that's enough, and Wilson never should have apologized and his colleagues shouldn't have pressured him to do so.
It reminds me of the first time I heard his radio show. I was driving through Georgia, in the days before satellite radio, and I decided to give him a minute to see what he was about.
[Rush] "I mean, the guy (President Clinton) just makes me sick."
[caller 1] "Ditto Rush! I see him and I want to vomit."
[caller 2] "Ditto, ditto -- oh ditto? Rush, everything about him is disgusting. He makes me sick, sick!"
The call and response chorus went on and on until I turned it off and I've only heard him a couple of other times in all these years -- I mean he makes me sick, but I can usually tell you why without inventing things.
That no plan offered by anyone provides health insurance for illegal residents of the U.S. isn't hard to determine, but Rush isn't about facts, he's about emotions -- hate, for the most part. It's easy for him to say that Obama is plotting:
to completely tear down the institutions and traditions that have made this country great.
It's impossible, however, to make a case for that without lying. In fact, his attempts to preserve some of those institutions are the basis for other Limbaugh anger crusades. I'm at a loss to understand what American institutions made America great and are now in peril from the concept of making insurance available to everyone, unless stupidity, dishonesty and perhaps insanity are institutions. I'm at a loss to understand just how:
SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
means the opposite of what it says without subscribing to Limbaughian logic. In fact, it proves that Rush is a liar, something all to easy to do, but one thing Rush knows is that the more absurd and preposterous the claim the less effective is the irrefutable proof of its falsity.
Rush knows and Rush profits and Rush keeps on lying and Republicans keep on following in his wake, terrified to disobey. It's not so much that he makes me sick but that he is the sickness.
(Cross-posted from Human Voices.)
Labels: health-care reform, lies, Rush Limbaugh
posted by Capt. Fogg at
9:06 AM
4 Comments:
Actually, Rush did back up his claims of Obama lying with audiotape of Obama from 2007 where the then-senator says he believes the USA needs a single payer system.
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Anonymous, at 10:31 AM
Whoa! the question was about illegal aliens and the proposed health care plan - how is that related to him saying we need a single payer plan or option back in 2007? The answer is that it isn't. It's non-sequitur. Rush said he lied about "everything" and that's a damned lie too.
Saying we need something and years later not saying we need it to the exclusion of all other options is not a lie, not a contradiction, not a change, not even close and I can't understand what you could possibly be trying to say here.
He said no illegals will be covered and no illegals will be covered - so saying "you lie", is of course a lie and that makes the man who said it a liar.
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Capt. Fogg, at 11:19 AM
Yes, I admit that i had that out-of-context, but deep down Obama wants single payer even though in his speech he implied he did not.
But back to the illegal immigrant issue, there are other laws that will conflict from the proposed one you cited, such as it being ILLEGAL to ask a person whether or not there a citizen. Furthermore, the proposed legislation, ironically to progressives, nay be unconstitutional as it viol,ates the 14th Amendment, i.e. No PERSON shall be denied, etc., etc., not No citizen . . . Hasn't this been used to attack the detentions of foreigners at Gitmo?
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Anonymous, at 12:28 PM
I think you're still getting it wrong - I don't think any plan will allow someone to just demand insurance coverage without having to apply for it. I had to present a birth certificate to get social security benefits. One would have to apply for an insurance card regardless of whether it's private or medicare. Illegals can't get medicare right now and there's no challenge to it.
The 14th amendment says that no state can deny the civil rights of a citizen
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Capt. Fogg, at 3:00 PM
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