"Absolutely torture": Waterboarding a right-wing radio host
By Michael J.W. Stickings
Maybe it's easy to say it isn't torture when you haven't actually been subjected to it yourself. That's certainly the case with most of the torture enthusiasts of the right.
Well, one conservative -- Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller -- decided to try it out, to make a point in support of those who claim it isn't torture. This morning, Mancow was waterboarded on air. And it wasn't really what he had expected:
If you remember, Christopher Hitchens -- that somewhat bellicose non-conservative who is decidedly not a torture enthusiast -- voluntarily subjected himself to waterboarding last year and reached the same immediate conclusion: "Believe me, it's torture."
Like Yglesias, I'm not sure why Mancow didn't just take Hitchens's word for it -- Hitchens's article is chilling -- but, to his credit (I suppose), at least he was willing to go through it himself. And, yes, perhaps more right-wing torture enthusiasts need to be subjected to it, too.
Then, and perhaps only then, would they come to see it for what it really is.
Maybe it's easy to say it isn't torture when you haven't actually been subjected to it yourself. That's certainly the case with most of the torture enthusiasts of the right.
Well, one conservative -- Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller -- decided to try it out, to make a point in support of those who claim it isn't torture. This morning, Mancow was waterboarded on air. And it wasn't really what he had expected:
"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South answered, adding, "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."
With a Chicago Fire Department paramedic on hand, Mancow was placed on a 7-foot long table, his legs were elevated, and his feet were tied up.
Turns out the stunt wasn't so funny. Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop. He only lasted 6 or 7 seconds.
"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back... It was instantaneous... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face... I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.'"
If you remember, Christopher Hitchens -- that somewhat bellicose non-conservative who is decidedly not a torture enthusiast -- voluntarily subjected himself to waterboarding last year and reached the same immediate conclusion: "Believe me, it's torture."
Like Yglesias, I'm not sure why Mancow didn't just take Hitchens's word for it -- Hitchens's article is chilling -- but, to his credit (I suppose), at least he was willing to go through it himself. And, yes, perhaps more right-wing torture enthusiasts need to be subjected to it, too.
Then, and perhaps only then, would they come to see it for what it really is.
Labels: conservatives, talk radio, torture
2 Comments:
Hunh! That's what makes it so effective ON TERRORISTS! It is torture, and, yeah, the US does it! Oh, no, the sky is falling. I wonder if burning to death in the WTC was torture?! Oh probably not. Just a bunch of little Eichmann's anyway.
By Anonymous, at 1:04 PM
A comment like this really doesn't merit a reply, but there's nothing else amusing going on today, so. . .
Of course you can't argue with someone whose just looking for attention, or is just stupid and looking to blame the world for his pathetic struggles, nor can you prove anything to someone that's just a nasty, hate filled boil on the ass of humanity.
I guarantee you that no one will say "Boo-hoo" if this guy is falsely accused, tortured and executed, or in fact in anything really horrible happens to him. After all two buildings were blown up and I suspect him of it since he's so obsessed. And what the hell - two buildings were blown up so our American and "Christian" values don't count any more - we simply can't afford not to torture anyone and everyone because OHMYGOD somebody might INVADE US! Screw civilization and the law because this Midwestern mediocrity is AFRAID!
Why give him the benefit of the doubt, much less of the law? Get the cattle prod guys -- we're going for the gonads!
By Capt. Fogg, at 9:20 AM
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