"In convention"al wisdom
By Carl
Curious thing about this story: Why didn't Obama win this state?
Conventional wisdom said that Hillary Clinton should have mopped the floor with Obama and given the nature of the electorate in West Virginia, I concur. She should also wipe the floors of Kentucky with Obama.
But....
Conventional wisdom, for some reason, begs the most obvious question: Why?
Obama has the nomination all but sewed up, according to every single pundit who can't see past the hors d'oeurve table at Obama headquarters.
Obama has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates and a slim lead in superdelegates.
It's all over but the shouting, I mean. Right?
Except here's Obama losing by 40 points! -- to Hillary Clinton, a woman whom everyone is saying is done for, finished, finito, kaput.
If it's really all over, why didn't West Virginia send a message to Clinton: "Get out."
If it's really all over, why didn't Obama use that as a theme to put up even a modest campaign in West Virginia, one that he could claim was "healing the wounds" he has helped create in the Democratic party? After all, wouldn't beating Senator Clinton in a state that was, to quote Bill Richardson, "tailor-made" for her be a sign to her that even her supporters thought she was done? Enough?
Was West Virginia not "good enough" for this effort, Senator Obama?
Aren't the "typical white voters" you poo-poo worth the effort to persuade to your coalition? Or have Reverend Wright's words sunk deeply into your mind and worse, your heart, Senator?
The overriding issue here is, if this election is over, then why isn't it over? Why hasn't Obama dealt the Clinton campaign the humiliating defeat that should have been dealt by now to a campaign struggling to stay afloat?
(Cross-posted to Simply Left Behind.)
Curious thing about this story: Why didn't Obama win this state?
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton arranged to meet with uncommitted superdelegates on Wednesday following her lopsided win in the West Virginia primary, as her supporters argued that her appeal to some traditional Democratic voting blocks may change some opinions despite the continued long odds that she can secure her party’s nomination.
Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, said “superdelegates have to have second thoughts” after West Virginia, speaking in an interview Wednesday morning on CNN.
Conventional wisdom said that Hillary Clinton should have mopped the floor with Obama and given the nature of the electorate in West Virginia, I concur. She should also wipe the floors of Kentucky with Obama.
But....
Conventional wisdom, for some reason, begs the most obvious question: Why?
Obama has the nomination all but sewed up, according to every single pundit who can't see past the hors d'oeurve table at Obama headquarters.
Obama has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates and a slim lead in superdelegates.
It's all over but the shouting, I mean. Right?
Except here's Obama losing by 40 points! -- to Hillary Clinton, a woman whom everyone is saying is done for, finished, finito, kaput.
If it's really all over, why didn't West Virginia send a message to Clinton: "Get out."
If it's really all over, why didn't Obama use that as a theme to put up even a modest campaign in West Virginia, one that he could claim was "healing the wounds" he has helped create in the Democratic party? After all, wouldn't beating Senator Clinton in a state that was, to quote Bill Richardson, "tailor-made" for her be a sign to her that even her supporters thought she was done? Enough?
Was West Virginia not "good enough" for this effort, Senator Obama?
Aren't the "typical white voters" you poo-poo worth the effort to persuade to your coalition? Or have Reverend Wright's words sunk deeply into your mind and worse, your heart, Senator?
The overriding issue here is, if this election is over, then why isn't it over? Why hasn't Obama dealt the Clinton campaign the humiliating defeat that should have been dealt by now to a campaign struggling to stay afloat?
(Cross-posted to Simply Left Behind.)
Labels: 2008 primaries, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton
posted by Carl at
10:35 AM
4 Comments:
The most irritating thing about you, Carl, is that you refuse to make any positive arguments for Clinton. Sure, Obama hasn't been able to rack up enough delegates to reach 2025 (I'm sure you, like the rest of the dead-enders, would dispute this number, but that way lies idiocy), but he's winning. You must realize that these arguments you're making against Obama apply doubly or triply against Clinton. If she deserves to win, how come it's almost mathematically impossible for her to actually do so?
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Fargus..., at 10:53 AM
Carl, do you really think the superdelegates are going to break Clinton's way? I'm not asking if you think they should (obviously you believe they should).
See, if you don't think they actually will turn around and back her, then every post you write is damaging the nominee of the Democratic party. Is that what you want? Do you want Obama limping in November for a pipe-dream?
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creature, at 12:28 PM
i am sensing a pattern to clinton's 'wins'- she says something that implies or outright states something racist- and then she wins certain states. wow. took me all of 30 seconds to figure that out. isn't it a coincidence that her voters are 'blue collar white voters?' but i am just an elitist- so what do i know?
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billie, at 2:33 PM
Here's the problem for Obama, though. It's NOT that Hillary will steal the nomination from him; it's that if Hillary, consciously or subconsciously, is appealing to white racism, then there's no reason McCain can't do the same thing and win some of these swing states. The people whom Hillary is courting are NOT the hard anti-war crowd; if they're fed up with the war, they're hardly alone, but the ECONOMY is by far their number one issue. Therefore, they're NOT necessarily part of the "Democrat OR DIE" segment of the electorate. If Obama, even if unfairly, is portrayed as an elitist who looks down his noses at obese, gapped-toothed, working class whites, then McCain can tap into these same people with just some buzz words like "gas tax holiday."
In the end you can complain all you want that Obama has been painted unfairly as an elitist, that Hillary, the Wellesley-educated, liberal feminist, somehow now magically appeals to people's darker sides, etc., but in the cold, hard light of day, it's a numbers' game called the ELECTORAL COLLEGE - FL, OH, PA, WV, NM, CO, even little old NH.
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QueersOnTheRise, at 3:02 PM
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