Amazingly laughable
By Carl
I wonder sometimes if these folks even know how to tie their own shoelaces:
(emphasis added)
Well, now, Mr.. Wallace, those are some serious charges! I can't imagine, then, that they aren't true, that you didn't behave within the bounds of the law!
Um. Oops.
So, um, Jay... can I call you Jay?... what part of "not following Federal law and doing a thorough background check of the person actually buying the gun" has slandered you, son?
Jay, I don't have to say it. Let me have one of your customers say it: “You set up in business saying that you’re a responsible citizen, and part of being a responsible citizen is looking out for other citizens,” he said. “When you’re granted a license and the right to do business you have to take the good with the bad, so you have to take that responsibility to heart.”That means following the law. Period. Those laws are there to protect the innocent and punish the guilty and, guess what?, YOU'RE GUILTY! So sit down, shut up and write the nice mayor a check.
I have no real problem with guns, to be completely honest here. I think guns in an urban setting are idiotic, but as someone who knows what rural America can be like, calling a cop and waiting a half hour before a patrol car shows up, I understand the need for guns out in the sticks.
So I don't stand fore-square against guns, just so we're clear. I don't think most Americans need them, however, and the fact that there are nearly as many Americans as guns is a noxious one to me. I don't think guns deter crime anymore than a good strong lock does. And I don't think arming the citizenry is going to do even one bit of good, since it merely encourages people to actually go out and use those guns.
After all, if you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail to you.
All that said, the underlying problem here is one of greed and discompassion for one's fellow man. If you don't care who the gun gets used on, you shouldn't be in the business of selling them. Period. End of story.
So, Mr. Wallace, close up your shop. There's ample evidence beyond this sting operation that your store is about as selective as a vending machine.
(Cross-posted to Simply Left Behind.)
I wonder sometimes if these folks even know how to tie their own shoelaces:
SMYRNA, Ga., Dec. 5 — In Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s campaign to remove illegal guns from New York City’s streets, he sued 27 out-of-state gun dealerships last year over what he said were illegal sales. Most agreed to settle, while others chose to take their chances in court.
But here, in this town of 48,000 where Julia Roberts was born, the fight has become deeply personal. Jay Wallace, who owns Adventure Outdoors, one of the major gun distributors in the area and a defendant in one of the city’s lawsuits, is countersuing Mr. Bloomberg, alleging fraud, slander and libel. A well-known resident who has operated the business here for 31 years, Mr. Wallace has drummed up support with an online fund-raising campaign, a summertime rally that drew hundreds, and celebrity representation by a lawyer who is a former congressman, Bob Barr.
The Georgia courts have ruled that Mr. Wallace’s suit can proceed here, a decision Mr. Bloomberg’s lawyers have appealed in the hope of having it dismissed. Mr. Barr and his law partner, Ed Marger, said they expected some action on the matter within the next week.
(emphasis added)
Well, now, Mr.. Wallace, those are some serious charges! I can't imagine, then, that they aren't true, that you didn't behave within the bounds of the law!
Um. Oops.
Mr. Bloomberg announced the first federal lawsuit, against 15 dealerships, with great fanfare and emotion at a City Hall news conference in May 2006, calling the gun shops “rogue dealers,” “the worst of the worst” and “a scourge on our society,” according to court filings. The second suit, against 12 dealerships, was announced last December. John Feinblatt, the city’s criminal justice coordinator — who is also named in Mr. Wallace’s libel suit — accused the dealerships of having “New Yorkers’ blood on their hands.”[...]
In a sting operation, the city sent teams of private investigators, usually a man and a woman, to five states. Posing as gun buyers, they went to stores whose guns had been linked to more than 500 crimes in New York City from 1994 to 2001.
Bloomberg administration officials said the investigators caught 27 dealerships allowing so-called straw purchases, in which one person submits to the required federal background check for a gun that is clearly to be used by someone else.
So, um, Jay... can I call you Jay?... what part of "not following Federal law and doing a thorough background check of the person actually buying the gun" has slandered you, son?
Jay, I don't have to say it. Let me have one of your customers say it: “You set up in business saying that you’re a responsible citizen, and part of being a responsible citizen is looking out for other citizens,” he said. “When you’re granted a license and the right to do business you have to take the good with the bad, so you have to take that responsibility to heart.”That means following the law. Period. Those laws are there to protect the innocent and punish the guilty and, guess what?, YOU'RE GUILTY! So sit down, shut up and write the nice mayor a check.
I have no real problem with guns, to be completely honest here. I think guns in an urban setting are idiotic, but as someone who knows what rural America can be like, calling a cop and waiting a half hour before a patrol car shows up, I understand the need for guns out in the sticks.
So I don't stand fore-square against guns, just so we're clear. I don't think most Americans need them, however, and the fact that there are nearly as many Americans as guns is a noxious one to me. I don't think guns deter crime anymore than a good strong lock does. And I don't think arming the citizenry is going to do even one bit of good, since it merely encourages people to actually go out and use those guns.
After all, if you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail to you.
All that said, the underlying problem here is one of greed and discompassion for one's fellow man. If you don't care who the gun gets used on, you shouldn't be in the business of selling them. Period. End of story.
So, Mr. Wallace, close up your shop. There's ample evidence beyond this sting operation that your store is about as selective as a vending machine.
(Cross-posted to Simply Left Behind.)
Labels: gun control, guns, Michael Bloomberg
3 Comments:
The cartoon, of course, is hyperbole that appeals to those who have never actually bought a firearm and had to wait for the obligatory criminal background check and mysterious three day "cooling off" period. For me to carry a pistol off my property I had to have a full FBI check, including having my fingerprints checked in Washington and kept on file and taking a safety course so my reaction was closer to being hosed off at the bigoted and unfounded stereotype.
Living where I do, semi-rural and prone to hurricanes, I've had to invoke "lex Beretta" a couple of times in the last few years and I'm suspicious of a government that insists I must only use my 62 year old fists to defend my wife against a gang of thugs or maybe run away - but you know what I'm talking about.
People from the Urban North, to use a polite description, tend to see guns or anything with sharp edges as instruments of death. Many of my New York friends cringe at Swiss Army knives and half the gardening tools I use at home. For the most part I see them as something that knocks down bottles and clay pigeons or lets me and my wife punch holes in paper targets at some country shooting range on some sunny afternoon. Many fishermen keep a little .22 pistol as part of a survival kit (it's a jungle down here) or something bigger for the gators. Most - virtually all, in fact, of my yacht owner friends keep firearms in their boats as do I. And I have to listen to the "guns are only for killing people" neurotics with a good deal of wonder. It's a bit like saying that the army is only for killing people so we should disarm them.
Still, the example of the dozens of states that began to allow concealed carry permits in the late 80's and 90's shows that this had no identifiable tendency to increase crime and possibly played a part in the reduction we've seen in the last 20 years.
As negligent as this dealer may have been, he can have no way of knowing the motives of any purchaser who walks in his door. All he has to go on is the signed statement by the customer that he's buying it for himself and once he's out the door, no law regulates private sales. I could sell you a gun now - no questions asked, no paperwork and my fingers remain warm and alive.
I think we have to be careful in focusing on legitimate dealers alone because it may serve to eliminate the only segment of the market that can be controlled. Maybe it would be better to try to control third party sales, but of course making all that stop by banning yet another thing, might be just as successful as banning alcohol once was.
By Capt. Fogg, at 9:38 AM
Fogg,
I can agree or at least empathize with your statements, right up to the point where you talk about "As negligent as this dealer may have been, he can have no way of knowing the motives of any purchaser who walks in his door," when this guy has been caught up in multiple operations of this sort, and it's clear the local authorities aren't doing nearly enough to enforce the rules.
Thousands of other gun dealers manage to sell plenty of guns that don't somehow end up in the criminal pipeline in New York City. Apparently, they do something that this guy doesn't, and he ought to fix that.
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