America's moral responsibility in Iraq

Andrew Sullivan responds to this excellent piece by John Burns in the Times. To quote Andrew: "One thing I wish were more insisted upon. It's not just that we have no interest in seeing Iraq degenerate into a brutal civil and possibly regional war. By removing Saddam, we created this vacuum. We own it. We have a moral responsibility to see this through." (OxBlog responds.)
I sympathize with those who are calling for U.S. forces to be withdrawn, from Cindy Sheehan to Jack Murtha, but the job must be finished first -- that is, Iraq must be firmly stabilized. As I've said before, the consequences of not finishing the job could turn out to be even worse than the gross injustices of this war.
(The graphic above is from the Times. Credits can be found at the John Burns piece linked above.)




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I'm not in favor of an immediate pull-out yet; perhaps a phased pull-out over the next two years. But I find that expressions like "see this through" and "finish the job" are rather vague, because what exactly are we talking about? The Iraqi army being trained and ready to go? The Iraqi government functioning well? The insurgency squelched?
I feel like we gave the military a task they weren't trained for, and in many ways a task way beyond their capability, and so hoping that if we stay a little longer things will work out is becoming a act of sheer faith. We have a moral responsibility to Iraqis, but also to our military. Is it fair to put our soldiers in harm's way for a long-shot?
I don't see us stabilizing the country without staying several years, without the UN actively involved, and without a reduction in foreign jihadists. What are the chances these things will happen? I don't like the odds.
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Nate, at 1:55 AM
Understand your view. More imagination than what Bush shows will be needed for there to be an effective solution in Iraq. More on this at Shadow and Smoke
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The Heretik, at 8:49 AM
A this point the war is a mess of contradictions. I've been thinking about it a lot. In some ways I'm just glad that people's attention is focused on the war, for a while the complacency seemed to take over, now it's back where it should be in the public's mind-- front and center.
On one hand I recognize a you-break-it-you-bought-it policy, however, I think in many ways our presence is hurting, we're the invaders who claimed that we invaded the country for their own good. Perhaps this could be true in the long run, but in the short term it's hard to see that from over here, so I can't imagine how it must look from over there.
However, our current strategy remains reactive, not proactive, and there is this impeding sense that this could all drag on without an end in sight. The few goals they have set are elections, training Iraqi army, all of which are slow, plodding ways towards building a democracy. But we really have so few options. Sadly that is a byproduct of our own ignorance, since Bush & Co. arrogantly cut off quite a few of our options by rushing to war. We could use some serious international cooperation and support here, but we can't even ask for it (and they wouldn't exactly give it to us anyways). So what to do? Hello rock, hello hard place.
But who can really say that Iraq will have anything stable anytime soon, if not for a few decades? There are places in the world that have been perpetually at war for centuries, and frankly the Middle East is full of such age-old conflicts. As Americans we're used to thinking of war as something finite, with a beginning, middle and end. But there really could be no end to this conflict in the near future.
Clearly I have no answers, only observations. I am sympathetic to people like Murtha who see this as something we should try to get out of-- but I do think we have to do it slowly rather than quickly.
As usual, the answer lies somewhere in the middle. It is how we define that middleground that is the tricky task at hand.
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zoe kentucky, at 11:09 AM
One thing is for certain: we have to make sure that the Republicans are completely, totally, and solely responsible for any withdrawal, elsewise I guarantee you they'll use it to create a "stab in the back" legend. Democrats shouldn't touch this thing with a ten foot pole.
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Susan, at 1:04 PM
We can't do it. They'd have to trust us, and they have been burned too many times, too many ways, and too badly, for that.
Let the UN take over, or just get out. It can't be any worse than it is with us there.
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Avedon, at 2:17 PM
What about the notion that our withdrawal, itself, may be the best thing we can do for the situation? For one, a large U.S. military prsence anywhere in the region can only be a terrorist/dissent magnet. For another, it leaves the insurgents/terrorists with the job of defending attacks on Muslims by Muslims, to the rest of the Arab world. It doesn't seem very likely, given the situation and our leadership (heh) that we can defeat the insurgency, and we're making damn poor progress on rebuilding infrastructure or society. How are we helping anyone that we might like, other than Halliburton et al?
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